I don’t understand why people are complaining about a women’s world cup player being trans
It’s still a biological female, playing against other biological females, which is completley fair? Why does gender matter? I don’t think trans females should compete in female sports due to the physical advantages - it’s not fair on biological females. But there’s no difference here?
Also, imagine if this was a biological man coming out as trans. Would we start persuading them to go be a female footballer? No, since we know that’s unfair on females.
This whole incident just shows in sports that instead of having some acceptance of trans people in sports, we whine and complain saying they’re in the wrong category.
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a trans man (if he was on testosterone) would totally have “advantages” if he was on T
also, the whole “trans women in womens sports” thing is tired. trans women have no proven advatage (or disatvantage for that matter). iirc they have to have testosterone levels below a certain point to compete (this might be wrong but i think i remember hearing it somewhere)
they aren’t so this incident is purely fair. For your second point, it has been proven that trans females still have advantages over biological females, particuarly in strength, so I still think for complete fairness it is best they stay in the mens category.
I mean if they’ve had a bunch of stuff done to make them exactly like a woman (and have similar strengths) and they’ve been doing that for years then sure, but if its a trans woman who still had the strength and all that of a male, then they shouldn’t be allowed to compete imo
no they are a biologically female that is now a trans man
FR, safety and fairness is more important than gender euphoria.
+1 it does, but nothing is wrong with this incident since it’s a biological female who is playing against biological females
people will be bigots and transphobes anyway. idk much about this particular incident, but conservatives usually just don't want trans people to exist.
Yeah, anything to complain about trans people. At least I’m consistent in my policies and thoughts with trans people in sports (sports are split into sex for fairness so they should compete in their sex categories, a biological female being trans and moving to male category though is fine as there is no advantages there, but if they wanna stay in the females category that’s fine)
dang, i take it you don’t like conservatives?
i don't like exploitation/capitalism if that's what you're asking :)
what do you like? I know you’re very far left and liberal, but like what does that mean? What do you think is the best system?
I personally believe Socialism would be much better than what we have right now. Try watching this video if you want to understand more of what that means (it very clearly explains the myths surrounding socialism and what it actually means/involves):
socialism has been proven to not work, literally every single time. it has always led to tyranny. (go look at this list for proof, is any of these countries somewhere where you want to live? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_socialist_states#Current_socialist_states)
the main problem is that the work of dividing up everything has to be done by some central party, which is (so far) always selfish (because humans are by default). you need a central government for it to work, which always turns bad, due to the flaws in humans. and there’s also the lack of incentive to work.
in the end, capitalism isn’t great but it’s the only system we’ve got that works.
this is simply not true. firstly, you can see this article for some socialist countries that have succeeded:
https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/5-socialist-countries-that-have-succeeded-964429/
try watching the entire video i sent @dertermenter (it debunks many of the arguments you just made)
The video also brings up many points, including that Socialism is actually based on capitalism. Also, no completely capitalist society has ever been successful (without many Socialist systems, countries like the USA and UK would be terrible to live in).
That video seems very sketchy. I checked the other videos on the channel, and they seem very biased. This, and the fact that they portray socialism as a perfect system make me think that there’s some stuff they’re leaving out.
There’s also just how propaganda-y it seems. “All of your problems are caused by capitalism. If we switch to socialism, all of your problems will disappear!” Overall, it doesn’t seem very trustworthy, but I also might just be biased because of the number of other similar video essays I’ve seen that turned out to be complete bullshit. Who knows?
did you watch the whole thing??? he literally says in the video that he’s not saying it’s a perfect system. it's just a vision for the future that would almost definitely be better for society as a whole. Based on the flaws of the current system, is it not logical to work toward a better future? Also, how is it propaganda-y compared to literally any video advocating for capitalism lmao
I think it's probably the #1 most misunderstood economic system, as there is so much capitalist propaganda (from the cold war, etc.) still today. Most people who claim to be "hardcore Capitalists" couldn't explain to you what Socialism is.
what I mean is that you act like you don’t like conservative voters as people, because you’re always so negative towards them.
conservatives usually just don't want trans people to exist
who is “conservatives” referring to there? if it’s for voters, that’s uncalled for and also a huge generalization.
i’m not tryna be mean with this. i’m probably misunderstanding you, so i just want to clear up any uncertainty
i dislike the ideology. i didn’t say that i hate all conservatives, but i strongly disagree with the ideology/movement. :)
that’s fair
based on my last comment, here is some data. According to Pew Research Center, 65% of conservative Republicans in the U.S. say acceptance of trans people is bad for society.
In these types of culture wars, politicians and the general conservative movement often incite these types of viewpoints in their supporters using scapegoats and straw men.
also, when i say conservatives, I’m mostly referring to politicians/corporations and the actual meaningful conservative groups that are perpetuating many of these viewpoints. however, in this case, i wouldn’t be too surprised if the majority of conservative voters agreed with the statement “trans people shouldn’t exist”.