almost none of these pings (even @dertermenter to an extent, he was pretty respectful for the most part) seem to make sense with the above post, especially @silly. i also agree that oren hasn't been starting drama recently, and i haven't ever. is saying you don't want to use the site because it makes you feel like shit a bad thing? are you just naming everyone who has participated in a drama? in that case i would agree, no one should feed the trolls (many names here, some not), but it's hard not to if they're forcing you into it (like with me and silly). i can definitely understand a few names here though. there are a lot more who aren't listed here. all round, this list is doing fuck all and is making things worse. you aren't the monarch of maturity on this site